Sleep Paralysis – VerdarLuz CelestiOwl

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Hello, and welcome to Adventures in mysticism. I am Leah grant, and I am joined today by very Deleuze. Did I say that correctly? Yeah, he did. That is Muda. Loose. Fantastic. Well, I'm excited to have you here today. Would you tell our audience a little bit about yourself?

Wow. Well, yeah, I guess professionally, I'm a life and business coach. I help entrepreneurs, families, couples and individuals, grow their businesses and connect deeper with their souls through astrology and human design, and numerology, as well as shamanic work, regression therapy, breathwork and ceremonial work. I'm also a musician, and composing a number of genres with classical guitar and ambient music for sound healing and meditation. And I do a lot of visual work with photography as well. So got my hands in a lot of different areas.

Yeah, you're playing and you're multi dimensionality. That's the beauty. Right?

No, and maybe we'll have a chance to talk about that. I just recently learned about a concept called Soul layering. And I really was resonant with what I learned about that. So that that could be interesting to discuss for a bit today.

Well, you know, I wouldn't say that synchronicity is the word I would use to describe kind of all of those, right, like meaningful coincidence that is an awakening is a prime back of the veil, and an opening to the multidimensionality of existence. And there's been so many of those in my life. But the first one the first experience that I had was when I was 17. And I was on a retreat in high school for senior year. And it happened to be called Kairos, which you may know the audience's is a word that means sort of the auspicious moment or the opportune moment. And the first night I was there, I started getting these stabbing pains in my chest, like, like I was being stabbed again and again and again, right after dinner. And I couldn't catch my breath. It was like the wind getting knocked out of me again and again and again. So the pain and the wind getting knocked out, it was extremely intense. And I felt like I was getting pretty close to death. If you can't breathe in, you're in that kind of pain. I happen to go to a Jesuit High School. So I had some priests around me. And I was kind of like laying in bed, kind of feeling like the last rites were going to be given to me if you know that that's the last sacraments and intercalary ism. And yeah, so I remember just being on this edge and praying and the the ambulance came and they they actually took my my oxygen levels and said I was fine. I couldn't breathe. And so I got taken to the hospital and they were giving me oxygen. And they did some X rays and discovered that in you know, that moment I had collapsed my, my right lung. Wow. Spontaneously, it's called spontaneous pneumothorax happens to one in every say 250,000 usually males between about 17 and 30 years old. And I was in the hospital for about 10 days. And because of that experience I had every person I knew and And, you know, friends and partners and previous partners and all my family come and visit me. And it was this outpouring of love and compassion. And it was such a gift, even though I was, you know, very young and, you know, kind of just in sort of shock with everything going on, I had a tube inside of my lung, draining fluid for 10 days, and the lung sometimes repairs itself. And we don't even know it collapses. But, but this time, it didn't happen. So I was very lucky. Because I had a new surgery at the time with a doctor who had kind of developed this and it was laparoscopic, so evolved the cameras, and we were able to staple my long back together. So it wouldn't happen on its own again. So that moment, you know, Kairos, this auspicious moment, this is actually the seat of my second book, which is about Chiron, the wounded healer. And I really felt in that moment that my, a lot of my Spirit Guides in my work, my soul work came into me, which is, you know, I'm a Gemini rising and astrology and Gemini is the messenger, this is the spirit of communication. And, and I work with the boat bird totems quite a bit. So I felt in that moment, the first bird totem that came to me is the crane that I worked with for a number of years. And then it's really over the last, you know, about 15 years become become very strongly aligned with the owl, as well as the hawk. And the spirit of Horus are strong and Athena. But I perform a celestial. I felt like in that moment, these energies were entering me. But it got deeper. This the day, the day after Christmas. So this was in November, day after Christmas, that year, six weeks later, I went for my checkup. And I was in the doctor's office, and I'd already gotten an x ray. And I started to feel the same pain in my chest.

Like, but it was coming from the backside. So like getting stabbed in the back, couldn't get spread the same feeling. It's very distinct. And the doctor came in and I was like mouthing to him. I think it's happening again, you know, and, and he was like, already telling me that everything looked good in the X ray. And, you know, we should, you know, everything was going according to plan. And as soon as I said that, he said, go get another x ray. And literally I just gotten when I came back into the doctor's office, he looked at the new X ray, my other long collapsed, wow, while I was in the doctor's office. And that was the first moment of synchronicity in my life, where it was too, too crazy, like too weird. And it was fortunate because then we basically I went to the hospital right away, we knew the other lung had collapsed because it was weaker and had you know, had to compensate for the previous one. And that can typically happen when you collapse one month, the other will often be weaker and collapse. So you know, I was in the hospital again, not as long but it was very striking at the age of 17 to have both my lungs collapse and symbolically. You know, as I studied shamanism more, I realized that this was like a shamanic initiation and began with the totem spirits coming in and that this would probably have been like, because I survived like a sign to my culture, my, my village my tradition that I would be chosen as a as a shaman of the community. And I realized that in my mid 20s, I started studying the Mayan calendar, which also brought a lot of synchronicities in my life and brought me into the role of an astrologer. But, um, I started to realize that this you know, the work I started to do with with entheogens, or psychedelics and Qigong and breathwork was all part of this shamanic path and, and again, the breath and working with with medicines that that I inhale and help other people through was part of this path. And it came to early experience of collapsing my lungs. So that was, that was pretty strong, you know, and there's others. But

absolutely, it also sounds like you know, with the breath is CI right. It's our life force. And so to have that life force, like taken away, given back then start to be taken away again. It's almost like this sort of like, Hey, are you listening? Yeah. And the value of life the value of that breath?

Yeah, and it almost feels like you know, like I live certainly sheltered and very easily The upbringing and middle class America and but, you know, after that kind of experience it was a definite wake up call, you know, and it took me on my path of saying, you know, yes to life seizing the day, and now traveling and living in, you know, 44 countries and, you know, doing things that I've done a lot of like, extreme sports and jumped out of planes and or gondolas, and, you know, bungee jumped and diving a lot and done things that actually, like, if I hadn't had that surgery, like I couldn't do like, just five years before, if that had happened, I wouldn't have been able to go dive scuba diving or, you know, do some of the things that I've done now. And I took it as a kind of licensed precious. And so yeah, it was it was really a gift. And that's part of why I wrote my second book was it's a little bit about that, but it's about we all have these, these, these wounds or these experiences that that could be victimizing on one level, if we perceive it that way. Or we could perceive it as the higher gift, the higher service, the higher calling, and, and use it to support the planet and step into our sacred work.

Right. And now the name of that second book again, was it's called

Aquarius Dawn's the shamanic artist and the rise of the wounded healer.

Okay, so that's a different one than the one you mentioned earlier.

No, this is well, this is the second book. The first book is called codex of the soul. Astrology archetypes and your sacred blueprint, which is the book they're both on Amazon. But yeah, I have those two books.

Fantastic. So you you mentioned at the end of your other story, that you have many more stories so what would you consider the most impactful or kind of extraordinary supernatural paranormal kind of galactic experience that you've had?

I often distinguish the sort of supernatural with kind of what you're talking about the shamanic events, those types of things, the paranormal is more kind of the ghosts and you know, having things move in your, in your area, the element working with the Elementals. Definitely. And the galactic Sir, when we actually do that connection with, I would say the star seed families, which I know you're doing some work with that as well.

Yeah. Yeah. Well, so would you like me to

do you have a story of connecting with your star family that you'd like to share? Well,

it's funny because I don't have it right in front of me. But I do have my first book I did self publishing and then it got picked up by a publisher but the the company or the cover I made the cover and it's a platies but I turned the platies this vertical way which we don't often see it and then the line did with the chakra system. And as soon as I first learned about the Palladian teachings, like some of the early like Barbara Marsh CDIAC work and Barbara Han cloudlet I really felt like that was from there, just the love vibration, the heart vibration, the creative energies. And, and so, you know, I've worked with the Palladian energies quite a bit in my life. And I continue to very strongly right now. And I just had moved to Taos, New Mexico recently, and I just had this experience. The first week here being out under the stars and praying with the Pleiades and with Sirius, that two kind of systems I feel most strongly aligned with and I've seen multiple craft and and flying, shooting stars, like in my prayers, asking for guidance, and I definitely seen numbers of craft in my life in different places. Guatemala, Asheville, here many places.

Have they all looked the same? No.

I mean, I, I have seen more like coverings, you know, and then like disappearances, not as many like balls of light necessarily, but I have seen that once before i i feel Yeah, I feel there's it's a remembrance it's a it's a it's a reconnection like kin Kindred, you know, the Kindred connection. It's it's like yeah, state stay focused, stay present. Keep the vibration high. I guess. You know, this is quite important that the thing that I've experienced most of my life that's paranormal and quite intense, and I still experienced it to this day is sleep paralysis. And since I was about 19, I've I've experienced sleep paralysis and so

can you share for anybody listening that may not know what that is?

to liberate you get answers when you ask those questions. No, no.

And, and that's what's always been frustrating, because I've always felt like if it was a benevolent energy, then then then then there would be some kind of response. And there wouldn't be like that sense of invasion. Now. This is kind of interesting, because from the research I've done, and probably you and some of the students as well, like, this is quite similar, right to a lot of abduction types of experiences, especially with some stories of the greys or the Zetas that are ridiculous. Now, the more you study that, that civilization, you kind of learned that their history was kind of you know, becoming so advanced technologically that they basically supplanted their emotional bodies, you know, for the kind of gave that up in the in the quest for like, intellectual superiority, you could say or, and so,

similar to potentially what would happen to us if we plugged into neural link

couldn't be right, like it's happening because the next generation is having a lot of problems with their emotional body. They, they can't even ask people out or break up a lot of times like in person anymore, they have to do it through text messaging, right? And you see things like with Tik Tok and some of the media now that is really, unfortunately, like, and there's some good things too but like it's, it's, it's, it's harming a lot of the inner soul and the sort of sensitive tender parts of the next generations and and so we are in that path, right and kids are being raised on the computers and the tech and the phone. So you have to be very careful right now I talk about this in relation to the shadow of the Aquarian Age that's coming in here now you know that the over technologies ation of everything. But but as I've sat with that more, I've kind of felt like, okay, maybe maybe that is some, you know, experimentation with those beings and me, maybe, maybe they're actually gifting me something and they have no way of, of showing that as a gift, I don't know,

or communicating with you what they're doing.

Or, or it's a test that, you know, because it's always in that moment, can I just surrender? Because I literally can't do anything. Right? I can't and what a what a great lesson, right? Or maybe maybe it's a different civilization. And it could be the ladies are Syrians, but they're seeing, you know, when my fear responses, you know, I don't feel that. But so, so that's been the great lesson for me. And that experience is about surrender. At you know, and that what I, if I do feel myself paralyzed, like I kind of, you know, awaken to that semi state, I tried to turn it into a conscious, lucid dream. So I'll try to fly. Or I'll try to, you know, just travel in that space. And just, this has happened again, last week, it happens quite frequently for me, like,

oh, how long might one of these sleep paralysis sessions last?

Well, how to know. Right? But but you're about five minutes on 10? Maybe? Maybe? No, not five minutes? I'd say very, maybe a couple of minutes.

Okay. I've had two I've had two of those experiences in my life. But that was it. Oh, and and it was interesting, because I knew of it because I have friends who've experienced it like you. But for me, it only happened twice. And I don't know. Yeah, I'm trying to think if there was anything in particular that I did besides acknowledge what it was in the moment and go, Hmm, this is interesting. Okay. I can't move I'd like to move.

no and what happens then after you wake up after as I have to

fall back asleep again. And usually I'll you know, I'll take a longer time to fall asleep. You know, it's probably the last months and months of my life like in that, you know, time of I just trying to fall back asleep. But this is I'm dreaming right away. That doesn't happen. Like, right, dreaming happens much later in our in our sleep process. Yeah, cuz

part of our REM cycle and it usually takes I think, what is it two to four hours to get into REM sleep,

right. So so I it's very difficult now so me but but I have sometimes remember those dreams, but I'm definitely dreaming. And it's it feels like it often feels like very, like relieving in that moment. Like, my boss feels so good to like, drop into that sleep in that moment. But like, I know that I'm always dreaming right? Immediately. Hmm. So and that would be the moment when the paralysis would happen. Okay, no, it's usually like let's say 90% of time gonna happen right in that first falling asleep. Also, if I take a nap, that's that's a very higher, much higher probability of the sleep paralysis. So, you know, that I've seen that very consistently. And then so there's those two and then part three of the sleep paranormal realms would be is, this hasn't no others did happen recently, a couple weeks ago, this is a little bit more rare, but at least maybe once a month. So I will have a go to sleep. And, and all of a sudden, I will, I will, I will kind of wake or like startle awake, with the sense of having the driest throat that you could ever imagine, like, imagine not drinking for two weeks in the desert, like, parched like, I end the thought is like, I'm going to die. Wow, I cannot get in, and I drink water. Like I have water with me all the time. And I haven't always before that. So I will, I will have just had water. And so I will get and I've literally like, pulled myself out of sleep to like save my life. That's what it feels like to I get water. And that money you think is happening in that? Well, that one's been extremely challenging. And I the only thing that I got so far is is around other lifetimes. And, you know, I mean, we could wax very deeply about this for a long time. You know, is it past is a future is it parallel? You know, and I think there's all of them happening. But, but I definitely have lifetimes in the desert. Definitely in Egypt, definitely Northern Africa. Spain, but like Islamic empire was part of my soul. So I've processed this life where I was carrying some kind of message and literally through like a scroll. And I was traveling across the desert, and also been to Turkey and the Silk Road that that whole thing is very much in the so. But the idea of like, I'm carrying this thing, I'm alone. I'm young. And but it's like a very important message that I'm supposed to deliver. And

when which could potentially be symbolic as well.

Oh, definitely. Yeah. And this is something I felt very strong before my first book came out. I mean, that book was written very quickly. And definitely, if you read it, it's like, transcribed, you know, I that's what I say like, not channel but like, was with me for lifetimes. So I'm so I'm whole, you know, what I've sat with is like, maybe this was like, pre Islamic empire. But it was like, probably in this much more wild lands, you know, anything goes and yeah, like, I'm guarding this. And I'm supposed to stay up like at night. Like because, of course, like there's thieves and like raiders and all this stuff. And I'm just so tired from my travels and from everything that I'm going through. And I like I like fall asleep, right. And I'm writing that in between liminal hypnagogia zone, which is when this thing happens. And sure enough, I'm stabbed. And I gasp like this into the desert air. I can't catch my breath, which is my lung collapse.

Right? Right. So it's all ties back together.

And then the thought is I I failed my mission. And in deliver the message. And I'm dying with that thought. And that's been something I've worked with in my, you know, my regression work. shamanic work, and

Yeah, cuz I can feel how strong that chord is, too. Your commitment to the mission, and then the failure of it, it's like you are still carrying that piece of I don't want to call it guilt because it has a different vibration than that. But there's definitely like a kernel of something that's like within your soul matrix. Yes. That has not released that. And I don't know that it could actually be released on like the physical plane. Yeah, that's just my sense of it just

yet. Love, you know, I'm seeking more of that insight right now with a lot of my teachings that I'm trying to work with and bring through around connection connecting with our multiple dimensional nature. That's the new program, the star seed program coming up. And, you know, connecting with our interdimensional or intergalactic DNA Palladian Syrian, you know, arcturion, whatever it may be, but actually also connecting with these deeper storylines that live within us, and how the stars and the position of the stars when we were born, there's stories there, there's stories, there's mythologies, there's cultural weavings. I love that stories.

Yes, storytelling, I mean, that's, that's what I love doing with clients with the six star charts, because what we're doing in astrology is, a lot of times, it's really just planetology. So we're just working with the planets that travel on the sun's path, which is called the ecliptic, but we have an entire sky. And for most of the history of the world, you know, we've worked with the whole sky because we looked at the whole sky. Now today, you can do astrology and never look at the sky. Right and, and but you couldn't be a sage shaman, seer, Stargazer, and ancient astrologer, and not be looking at the entire sky. And you would, you would have a visual experience of a star rising and a planet setting or that kind of relationship between the highest point in the sky and what was rising or setting and the Egyptians would say that the, the stars that were rising or setting before the sun were extremely significant. And they were related to a god's passage, either down from the upper worlds to connect with humanity and communicate with humanity, or a God who had died, gone under the visual plane of the earth, and then was resurrected. After a few days or a few weeks, that that moment of resurrection was a God being reborn. Now, this is where we get the entire Christian myth those

It is fascinating you say that, because there is another astrologer who talks about this, and, you know, says if you go back and look at some of the actual older paintings of, you know, God, baby Jesus, there's crafts in the background, and that the Son of God is not, like, wasn't a person it was the son.

Yes, absolutely. And we see that and, of course, in all the traditions that the, you know, the sun is, is always this this God, but But it's its story is it's cartography is mapped into the Wheel of the Year and this is the, this is the sacredness behind what, you know, we call Astro theology, which is basically like, the study of like, how the stars and planets Sun and Moon and are all like, have been sort of like the voice of God, the voice of the Divine for for millennia, across cultures and the the oldest and most universal religion, if you want to call it that is astrology. Astro theology. Yeah,

and I know a lot of religions would, would take offense to that.

But a symbol for look at the symbol for Islam, it's this it's the moon, and star. And in there's quotes throughout the Quran, there's quotes throughout the Bible, the Genesis is filled with quotes. God gave the signs in the heavens and the firmaments for man, and the sun and the moon and the the rhythms of the sun and the moon to guide man, it's lit. It's literally astrology, the book of Job speaks about binding the Pleiades and, and Orion. So, I mean, it's, um, it's all there, you know, I am going to be teaching about that in this training, but also in the upcoming class. And it's my favorite topic, right is how all of that because I was raised Christian, and then I learned, you know, like, all of how all of these symbols of Christ life and the, the holidays, the Holy Days, and, you know, the idea of the Sun dying and being reborn after three days, which is exactly what happens right at the winter solstice, the sun stops moving, goes into the tomb, and then after three days begins rising again towards, you know, towards, towards the the summer solstice,

right, which is, interestingly enough, that's like the 21st is the winter solstice. And then you've got, you know, Jesus's birthday on the 25th, which would be four days but,

yeah, but it was, it was never that before, like it was that because of Mithras, who was the most popular Roman deity at the time who was a solar god Mithraism was all about It was actually an astral religion and the initiates would go through planetary initiations. In these caves, we have Mithraeum, these caves all over the ancient world, they're in Germany, they're in Greece, they're in Rome, or, you know, in Italy. So it was the major religion of the Roman soldiers.

And so you have so much amazing knowledge, I've been to several of your classes. And I always, always love it, which was one of the reasons I wanted to bring you in, for this audience, as well as for the spiritually architect, the future audience. So on spiritually architect, the future you're going to be talking about constellation is your topic. And so you're going to share with us the, what's going on with the stars and the planets right now, and how that's influencing all of the events that we're seeing in the world today.

Yeah, definitely. And how each of us, you know, can can embody our star codes, our soul codes, you know, and that's the gift of, you know, astrology, it's a gift of numerology, it's the gift of human design. What I love about these, these tools, these three are the ones that I work with the deepest is that they're, they're there. They're all about that moment, when your soul first took its breath, that interface of, you know, the multi dimensionality, into the third dimensional plane. And that's a very significant thing, that moment, that date, time place you were born. That's a very intentional decision in the soul, right. So it's a little bit different than some other systems, which may be very reflective. But systems where you take like quizzes online, or you fill things out, your conscious self is very involved in that and one day to the next, you might have different responses. But when your soul was born, in that moment, you know that you can't argue with that in some way, or you can't change that. And so I love working with those tools. And I've just seen so much your beautiful reflection with them over the years. And also as a traveler, locational astrology is something that I'm extremely passionate about and feel that the world also really wants to know and integrate into their life that you your soul interfaces with different, you know, vortexes and places on the earth in different ways. And we have tools to show you, your particular power places, it might not be like, the Pyramids of Giza for you, right? Of course,

there's the Astro locality where like, perfect places, like somewhere in the middle of the very top of Canada, which is nowhere I'd want to be here.

Well, no, I mean, perfect place. Like there's always like, the better places for different intentions. And we probably all felt that right? If we lived anywhere else we were born or when we traveled somewhere, you know, just felt a certain energy and it might be somewhere you don't expect. And that's happened for me a lot in places like in Central Europe, where is one of my power spots in the Balkans, I was there this last year and done a lot of teaching and music and things there. And, you know, it wasn't the first place I would think. So I love helping people see that there is a constellation on the earth of places that can really support you growing to your soul's capacity or activating certain DNA and you certain codes and you that where you are right now may not be doing for you. I feel very strongly right now

somebody wants to do like a reading with you, where would they go

on? So I have the site divine dash timing, Dash coaching.com Divine dash timing, Gosh, coaching.com. And there's a number of readings listed there. My webinar classes and trainings I've done are there as well. And the new training starseed is going to be there. And yeah, so that

you want to share a little bit about starseed

Yeah, it's it's being completed built out right now. And I'm very excited this is this is a program that I feel it's been it's really been told to me from my my my star family that this is very important to do, and offer at this time. One of the reasons I'm offering it is because Jupiter and Neptune are coming together in Pisces in April. They're getting closer and closer, this is a transit that happens about every 13 years, but not in Pisces not in the in the sign of mystical union of spiritual, you know, opening and this can be such a powerful transit for connecting with our celestial families and for unifying the grid on the planet as well. So, the program is going to be likely done in a number of activations. So what we want to do is have, for instance, we will start with Orion and, and we'll have two classes dedicated to the Orion activation, and then we'll move to the plate in activation. And there'll be a class that's dedicated more to some of the teachings around that star system. But these teachings will come from various pathways, so there'll be mythology, across cultural also indigenous wisdom about that star system or star, then there'll be actual astronomy associated with it. So with Orion, we'll be talking about the nebula, because there's many nebula there, including the Orion Nebula where the mind say that we actually came from. And so we'll learn about the nebula and the majesty of that, so there'll be some astronomical components. In other classes, there'll be learning about the spectra of stars, like the different brightness and how that can actually reflect. If we want to anthropomorphize stars, some of the kind of personality of the stars are like the medicine or the teaching of the stars, based on their brightness based on their age. And this is some really fascinating territory to play with, then what we're going to do is have a class very dedicated to experiential processes. So we'll be doing meditations, we'll be doing activations, we'll be doing Qigong and dance, doing breath work and writing exercises, to open our own channels. And actually, you know, connect with that star system, that star family and allow that medicine now to come through, like what can each one of us receive, and then offer that to our communities, to our tribe to the world right now, because they're waiting for us, like they're waiting for us to, to just create the space and time to to be received? You know,

I don't know, I definitely feel that I've gotten messages recently about being a galactic ambassador, and kind of seeing that sense of connecting, you know, the stars to the to the earth, and the beings kind of coming back and forth. And I don't know exactly how that's gonna play out. But it's like the seed has been being planted over and over lately. And your program sounds so deep and so rich. I'm thinking that the is that at the same place that you just gave us? Or is there somewhere else people would go to?

It's at the same place. Okay, great. It'll be listed under the webinar workshops category. It's the homepage is actually about archetypal Business Academy that I saw Tate. So that's coaching, using astrology and human design in these tools. And then this will be another page there, we're also going to look at the fixed star astrology so that you know that you can learn how these different stars in the systems are in your own charts. And you may have one of these stars rising or setting and it's very significant for you. So we're going to get into how you can implement the whole sky into your, you know, into your wisdom and your your medicine here. So I'm just very excited about this offer right now. And it's that's actually

your ordinary inspiring. Yeah, yeah. So it just added in, you know, as we wrap up here, is there any message that you would have for someone who maybe doesn't have somebody to talk to about the experiences that they're going through? You know, maybe it is the sleep paralysis? Maybe it's something else? What would you say to them?

The first thing is, allow it to be a creative process for you. So maybe it can come through music, maybe it can come through dance, painting, photography, writing, that that experience informs some process of you, that is a creative process. Some of the best art in the world, right comes from this. You know, so yeah, music, dance, let it channel through you in some way. And even if there's confusion in that, right, like, right about that, you know, just let it let it come through. And then I would say, there's so many communities, you can start to find groups on Facebook, for instance, like the CE five group is really great for making conscious contact.

And that's even greener careers group there.

Yeah. And, and there's, there's starseed groups, and one of my recommendations, I think it's one of the greatest consciousness sort of platforms right now. It's called the To assumption, and there's days and weeks and months of free material on there with star family starseeds teachers, those who are, you know, again, just like you like they've had these experiences, whatever paranormal or you know interdimensional they might be and they're they're mapping this territory and like I was saying about the soul layering, I learned that from a teacher who has a book about walk ins. And I've been now meditating like I haven't thought about it really before in that way. But I now I'm feeling like, what happened to me during my lung collapse was probably some kind of walk in and this soul overlay is when, like, an extra dimensional part of yourself, or a larger part of your oversoul in incarnate into your energy, but there's multiple of that happening, have multiple kind of parallel souls incarnating, what happened with the soul overlay is that those different aspects of the soul of the oversoul actually come front and center at different parts of different times in your life. And I really feel that, and it really reflects the Gemini rising quality to me. And so that's really helping me be more understanding of myself, because I sometimes struggle with all of the areas that I, you know, play with and work on in my life that it's like a little too much. And, well, maybe there's like, you know, a number of star system DNA going on in me that, you know, there's one

physical body on this very dense plane that is holding a spark of spirit that is infinite.

Yeah. So have that. Okay.

So I think that once you actually realize that, like, you've always feel like you're about to burst. I know, I've had that experience, where it's like, I've got so much stuff, and it's like, and there's so much more, but there's limits to what I can physically do, you know, because of the limits of time, space and physicality.

Well, that's why the more we open to multi dimensional types of work through dance breathwork meditation ceremony, we can actually we can actualize these other aspects, you know, and we can transcend the those limitations of time and space. And that's why I think this work is going to continue to grow and why I wanted to offer this program now to see what we can do when we allow that, that density to start to, you know, shed a bit and that is the movement to five d that a lot of people have been talking about where we do create more of our own reality in the sort of transcend the heaviness of the of the 3d. And so I invite everyone to do these practices and to open and to find who you resonate with and, and work and play with them.

Awesome, fantastic. Well, it has been a delight to speak with you today to hear your stories, to hear your wisdom, and to learn about what you have going on. I want to thank you for being here with us today.

It's been an honor, I've learned a lot about myself as well as that. Thank you.

Wonderful. Thank you for listening to today's episode. And on our next episode, we will have another guest who will be sharing their adventures and mysticism with us. Until then, enjoy the unfolding and embrace the unknown.